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Giardia
04-14-2006, 11:45 PM
According to recent studies, yes! Take, for example, the nematode. This little worm enters an insect, and when the time is right, realeses the bacteria that it is holding into the unfortunate prey, killing it. No one is yet sure why or how the worm knows which bacteria, but they think that the worm can recognize the proteins on the outside of the bacteria! Pretty cool, huh? Also, the Hawaiian Bobtail Squid, a tiny squid, uses the same bacteria that causes whooping cough, and gonorrhea in humans, which in the squid is responsible for the development of vital organs:eek: ! This suggests that the behavior of the bacteria depends on the host!

kskerr
04-15-2006, 05:00 PM
Yes it is more than possible for a human pathogen to either help or not harm other organisms. Look at killer E. coli, that bug causes no issues in cattle but if a human contracts it watch out. Certain strains of salmonella are normal flora for lizards but potentially pathogenic to humans. Same with campylobacter in poultry.

One thing to note, whooping cough and gonorrhea are caused by two different organisms...

Giardia
04-15-2006, 10:10 PM
yeah, I know, I just didn't know how to put it clearly! Of course they're different organisms! Also, we have about a billion E.coli living in our intestine, producing vitamin K. Without E.coli, our blood wouldn't clot, and we'd bleed to death. As you know, it's only dangerous if it escapes the gastro-intestinal tract!

Crazy4Microbes
04-18-2006, 04:10 PM
weird. :eek:

Giardia
04-18-2006, 07:37 PM
Isn't it?:D

kskerr
04-19-2006, 02:48 AM
Not really, lots of things are like this. Just look at Austrailia, all the problems they have with critters that have been introduced there that are important parts of their native ecosystem but over there wreak havoc...

Giardia
04-19-2006, 04:49 PM
Like bullfrogs.

kskerr
04-19-2006, 08:23 PM
I am more aware of their problem with cane toads but I would not be at all surprised if they also didn't have a bull frog problem! Rabbits, prickly pear, tourists... they are full of problems!

Giardia
04-20-2006, 10:01 PM
Actually, I think North America had bullfrogs introduced as a foreign species from france, as a source of frog's legs. They were released from captivity into the wild when there was no market for their legs. :D

kskerr
04-21-2006, 01:50 AM
Not sure, think bull frogs might be indigenous, but I am no expert so you could be right. I hear that gigging (that might not be spelled right) frogs is a somewhat popular sport among some of my countrymen, there is a line in a country song about it, I was educated as to what it meant by a DJ that looked it up, so far it has not caught on in Chicago ;)!

Giardia
04-21-2006, 12:12 PM
Fascinating.

kskerr
04-21-2006, 02:09 PM
I heard frog legs are good, not sure if I'd be adventurous enough to actually try them, seems a bit gross to me. I did try escargot, was not impressed!

Giardia
04-21-2006, 06:56 PM
I've tried escargot, too! Like chewing on tires!

kskerr
04-22-2006, 03:14 AM
There are much better things to eat as far as I am concerned!

Giardia
04-22-2006, 11:04 AM
Mhmm. It's one of those things you try just to say you've tried it, then never eat it again.:D :D :D :D

kskerr
04-24-2006, 10:40 PM
I have a lot of those! Though I have recently discovered that my tastes have changed a bit, I like several things I hated before, like cooked mushrooms, I adore them now. And a friend of mine made a spicy BBQ sauce in class and made me try it and I actually liked it, maybe I am becomming less of a wimp!

Giardia
04-25-2006, 05:42 PM
I really like antalope steak with truffle (the mushroom, not the chocolate) sauce. Tried it in Colorado. T'was very good!:D :D :D :D

kskerr
04-26-2006, 10:49 PM
Never tried either of those, I would be willing too though. I tried shitake mushrooms, they were super nasty I thought!!! I like portabellas best, button are ok but not the best. I think they have morels (spelled wrong probably) around here but I don't know where to find them and would likely find a poisonous something if I tried...

Giardia
04-28-2006, 10:18 PM
we've had a bag of dried morels in the cupboard for about half a year...I could FedEx them to you!:D :D :D :D

kskerr
04-29-2006, 12:34 PM
Lol, I could probably pick some up around here, sure they are likely in the stores if not the ground :)!

Giardia
04-30-2006, 03:24 PM
They're really expensive, though. My grandma is a mushrooming fanatic, and she sends us crates of chanterelle mushrooms for free! She picks tonnes of them in the woods! it's good, because they are reeeally expensive at the store!:D

kskerr
04-30-2006, 07:02 PM
I think it would be cool to go mushroom hunting, especially since it would save money.

Giardia
05-01-2006, 11:05 PM
Oh, it is fun! Exept I would always yell when I saw a mushroom, and my cousin would pick it before I could!

kskerr
05-01-2006, 11:50 PM
Horrid cousin! Pick first then yell :D!

Giardia
05-28-2006, 02:30 PM
i was really little when I went mushrooming. We don't do it anymore when I visit my grandma. I wonder why? My grandma still mushrooms...:rolleyes:

kskerr
05-31-2006, 04:22 PM
Who knows, maybe she thinks you outgrew it or something. Perhaps you should suggest going and likely make her day by doing so :D!

Giardia
06-03-2006, 05:59 PM
We don't stay over night anymore. I guess there isn't time...

kskerr
06-04-2006, 09:31 AM
Ah, doing the whole short visit thing so there is only time for the essentials, that stinks. Kinda like how my Memorial day weekend went, I visited home and since I was only there for a few days I didn't get to do nearly everything that I wanted to.

Giardia
06-04-2006, 11:47 AM
It sucks, cause it takes 3 hours to get there, we stay for 5, and then we drive three hourse to get home.

kskerr
06-04-2006, 11:01 PM
My family would never do that, too long to drive to only be there a few hours and not stay the night, especially since it is family. I thought it was bad when I drove the 4 hours to the farm in Indiana Christmas Eve night and left the next day so I could go back to work on the 26th!

Giardia
06-04-2006, 11:20 PM
my brother can't stay away form home. he's weird in that way.

kskerr
06-04-2006, 11:30 PM
That stinks!

Giardia
06-04-2006, 11:31 PM
I know:mad:

kskerr
06-04-2006, 11:46 PM
Siblings :rolleyes: !

Giardia
06-07-2006, 04:46 PM
It would be pretty dull without them, you've gotta admit!

kskerr
06-08-2006, 11:46 PM
I suppose at times they have their uses :p

Giardia
06-20-2006, 11:15 PM
Example:

WHERE DID THE LAST PEICE OF CAKE GO?
Bill ate it, mom, I swear (i say with a mouth full of cake)
Somehow, I doubt that. Let me ask him.
*GULP* ok

Yes, i know, but in the time it takes her to get to his room, even though she knows I know she knows i took the cake, I've already disappeared into the depths of my room. the moral: Siblings make good distractions.:D

kskerr
06-21-2006, 02:59 AM
I blamed mine for practically everything too, but then it was often the truth... at least partly ;)

Giardia
06-21-2006, 08:13 PM
Yes...these things tend to be two-sided;)

kskerr
06-23-2006, 01:14 AM
I used to have the youngest sibling as my default blame, now it is the other one (two sisters both younger), when in doubt go with the default...

Giardia
06-30-2006, 10:08 PM
I only have one sibling- my brother, who's older- who lives with us...my half sister is 33 and lives in colorado...

kskerr
07-05-2006, 12:15 AM
My family is my parents, sisters and niece, they all live together, I moved out to go to school, it was getting crowded anyway!

Giardia
07-31-2006, 10:57 AM
I can see your point.

kskerr
08-04-2006, 01:13 AM
It is about to get crowded here, my sister, neice and probably Dad are going to come visit in about a week, not sure if my apartment will survive my now 3 year old neicey :eek:

Giardia
08-04-2006, 10:49 PM
i remember when my neices were three...one was three, then two years later the other was three...they're nine and ten now

kskerr
08-06-2006, 12:14 AM
My niece is a very very very very very active 3! She learned how to get into things before she even knew how to crawl, then she learned to crawl and walk so she could get into more things. She is a total climber too, I am very afraid for my giantmicrobes collection, I am hoping she sees them as part of the wall and not something to play with! I wish she were potty trained, she has decided that she wants to "be a baby" and not give up the diaper, I'm going to empty my apartment of candy and then get those kitkat bite things and she can only have them if she uses to potty here and have that be her only source of candy, perhaps the little junky will fall for that tactic...

Giardia
08-06-2006, 01:27 PM
once, when my neices were 5 and 3, they got into my nail polish and painted it all over my bedroom carpet! I walked into my room (I was 7 at the time) and screamed so loud that everyone ran downstairs to see what was the matter...then they got mad at me for leaving my nail polish where they could get it...it had been high on a shelf in a locked box!

kskerr
08-07-2006, 02:47 AM
If you left it on the dresser or on the floor or something I can imagine it being partly your fault but in a locked box on a shelf, what more could you have done :eek:! A 5 year old should know better too!

Giardia
08-07-2006, 10:29 PM
yeah, you'd think...

kskerr
08-08-2006, 02:46 AM
Perhaps I should pack my whole apartment up and move it into the basement for the week....

Giardia
09-10-2006, 11:05 AM
lol, good idea...and cover the floors and walls with plastic!

kskerr
09-10-2006, 02:57 PM
That is a good idea, instead I moved all writing utensils up high, which worked until my sister left a sharpy on the table, Kayla used it to write on her laptop (and thankfully not my walls or fridge or whatever), but only on the bottom part not the screen thank goodness!!! She climbed my dresser and got into my tetracycline (fish med not human), I found it on the floor and started to panic when it looked like one was missing, but then I found it, very scary! She also got the algae wafers and threw a bunch into my 55 gallon tank, the pleco now worships her.

Hmm looks like my snail migh be shrinking :eek:, is that even possible :confused:!? Maybe it is the angle or something...

Tuburculosis
09-10-2006, 07:25 PM
ok,umm,not much to say here,oh,go to www.wallyandosborne.com ,its a comic,not as cool as giant microbes:rolleyes: ,but fun.

mazuac
09-17-2006, 04:15 PM
yes, giant microbes is the cooliest:)

Tuburculosis
09-17-2006, 06:00 PM
it is germs made plush!

mazuac
09-19-2006, 06:27 PM
yes:) lol!